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FISH AND WILDLIFE COORDINATION ACT

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Hearings held

October 17, 1979...
March 13, 1980.

Text of H.R. 5604.

Statement of

LACEY ACT

Bavin, Clark R., Chief, Division of Law Enforcement, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Department of the Interior.

Berlin, Kenneth, Section Chief, Wildlife Section, Land and Natural Resources Division, U.S. Department of Justice.....

Bowland, Jack, national representative, Tuna Research Foundation
Prepared statement..

Boynton, Stephen S., Washington counsel, Wildlife Legislative Fund of
America

Brooks, Clayton, president of J. M. Clayton Co...

Campbell, Faith Thompson, research associate, Natural Resources Defense Council, Inc

Cooper, Toby, wildlife programs director, Defenders of Wildlife.

Prepared statement..

Countryman, Richard A., division director, Arizona Commission of Agriculture and Horticulture, State of Arizona......

Gordon, William, Director, Office of Resource Conservation and Management, U.S. Department of Commerce, National Marine Fisheries Service

Gottschalk, John, legislative counsel, International Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies....

Gleiber, John, executive secretary, Society for Animal Protection. Greenwalt, Lynn, Director, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Department of the Interior .

Heymann, Henry L., representative, International Primate Protection
League

Hodges, John A., legal counsel, Tuna Research Foundation

Jensen, W. Pete, director, tidal fisheries, Department of Natural Resources, State of Maryland

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Malone, Jim, American Fish Farmers Federation, Lonoke, Ark......
McGiffin, Heather, research associate, Institute for the Study of Animal
Problems, Division of the Humane Society of the United States

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Meyers, Marshall, counsel, Pet Industry Joint Advisory Council and Research Animal Alliance......

Mulligan, John P., president, Tuna Research Foundation.
Prepared statement......

Nordstrom, M. Kathryn, director of Government relations for seafood products, National Food Processors Association

Powell, Steve, Assistant General Counsel, NOAA, U.S. Department of Commerce

Robinson, Robert, executive vice president, Pet Industry Joint Advisory
Council and Research Animal Alliance.

Smith, Ralph, legal counsel, National Food Processors Association

Steele, George S., Washington legislative representative, American Association of Zoological Parks & Aquariums..

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Sutter, Robert, North Carolina Department of Agriculture.

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Wagner, Robert O., executive director, American Association of Zoological
Parks & Aquariums.

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Prepared statement..

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Wolfe, Edward, associate legislative representative, American Association of Zoological Parks & Aquariums

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Additional material supplied

Chesapeake Bay Seafood Industries Association: Resolution of the board of directors, July 1979.........

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Cooper, Toby: "The Bird Business”—A study of the importation of birds into the United States, by Greta Nilsson.....

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DAC Seafood Committee: Resolution in support of changes in the Lacey
Act.

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Eudey, Ardith A.: Affidavit..

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Gleiber, John:

Article: "The horrible, unforgivable ordeal of those cute exotic birds".
Photographs of animals and birds in shipping crates

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Heymann, Henry L.:

Article from Roy Carson: "Cruel Cargo of Shame-Lab Monkeys Die
on Terror Flight".

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Comments from Dick Van Hoorn.

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Partial list of Gibbon importation to the United States from Singa-
pore 1973-74 (including Siamangs).....

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Interior Department:

Due care

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Shellfish Institute of North America: Resolution of the board of directors,
June 1979.

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Sutter, Robert D.:

Plant Protection and Conservation Act of North Carolina.

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The North Carolina Botanical Garden..

Communications submitted

Berger, Michael E.: Letter of October 22, 1979, to Hon. John B. Breaux......
Clare, Kenneth: Letter of August 25, 1975, to International Primate Pro-
tection League.....

Eudey, Ardith A.: Letter of September 17, 1975, to Clark R. Bavin......
Fritschie, Gustave: Letter of November 1, 1979, to Hon. John B. Breaux....
Gottschalk, John S.: Letter of March 11, 1980, to Hon. John B. Breaux
Heymann, Henry L.: Letter of October 23, 1979, to Norma Moses..........
Hodges, John A.: Letter of March 21, 1980, to Hon. John Breaux
Jatinandana, Samrit: Letter of March 28, 1973, to Lt. Col. Phillip E.
Winter..

Kawakami, Tom: Memorandum of October 20, 1972, to Jim Pollock
Lenzini, Paul A.: Letter of November 13, 1979, to Hon. John H. Chafee......
Moorman, James W.: Letter of November 21, 1979, to Senator John H.
Chafee.

Natvaratat, Suthee: Letter of May 30, 1975, to Mrs. Joan M. Liska.........
Nordstrom, M. Kathryn: Letter of November 15, 1979, to Hon. John
Breaux

Poole, Daniel A.: Letter of October 22, 1979, to Hon. John Breaux.
Skoog, Ronald O.: Telegram of November 6, 1979, to Representative Don
Young....

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Songkrohphan, Preecha: Letter of July 21, 1975, to Mrs. Joan M. Liska Sutter, Robert D.: Letter of March 14, 1980, to Hon. John B. Breaux with supplemental information attached..

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Tallman, Owen H.: Letter of March 11, 1980, to Congressman John
Breaux

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Winter, Phillip E., M.D.: Memorandum of February 27, 1973, to Rear
Adm. Samrit Jatinandana on shipment of gibbons to the United States.
Wolfe, Edward E.: Letter of December 4, 1979, to Wayne Smith............

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FISH AND WILDLIFE COORDINATION ACT

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 5, 1979

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES SUBCOMMITTEE ON FISHERIES
AND WILDLIFE, CONSERVATION AND THE ENVIRONMENT
OF THE COMMITTEE ON MERCHANT MARINE AND FISHER-
IES, AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON WATER RESOURCES OF
THE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTA-
TION,

New Orleans, La.

The committee met, pursuant to call, at 8 a.m., Rivergate Convention Center, New Orleans, La., Hon. John B. Breaux presiding. Present: Representatives Breaux, Hughes, Wyatt, and Treen. Also present: Representatives Roberts, Boggs, and Livingston. Congressman BREAUX. I would like to acknowledge on behalf of the congressional committees, the hospitality of the city of New Orleans in allowing us to be here this morning to have these oversight hearings. One thing about New Orleans that I've found, and I think that most Members of Congress who are not from Louisiana, particularly not from the city of New Orleans, when they do come down here and visit, they find that the morning comes very quickly and very early, depending on how late the night before, but the hospitality of the city, the people we were visiting with yesterday, was absolutely tremendous, and we wish to thank everyone involved who helped to make this trip possible from a logistic standpoint.

As chairman of the Fisheries and Wildlife Conservation and the Environment Subcommittee of the Merchant Marine and Fisheries Committee, I am joined by my colleagues, both of whom are serving on the Fish and Wildlife Subcommittee along with Chairman Ray Roberts, of Texas, who is chairman of the Water Resources Subcommittee of the Public Works and Transportation Committee. I also serve on that subcommittee which has an interest in the issue before us.

The purpose of today's hearing is to try to find a solution to the problem of delays in the processing of permits for oil and gas activities. There are two conflicting goals at work here: Meeting our country's demands for energy and preventing the needless destruction of fish and wildlife habitat at the same time.

The process for resolving Federal agency objections to proposed oil and gas activities in wetlands appears to be suffering some sort of a breakdown. Over the past few months, I have been personally involved in trying to obtain Federal decisions on oil and gas permit applications in response to dozens of complaints from Louisiana companies. I have found that, under the present procedure, the decision is to be made by no less than the Secretary of the Army

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