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The German government acceded to my request, and it appears from the returns that on the 1st day of December, 1871, the Americans present in Germany numbered 10,672. This census includes the American-born not less than the naturalized Germans; and travelers and sojourners as well as residents. But it was taken at a period of the year when the number of transient travelers is at a minimum.

As a help to a conjecture on the question how these are to be distributed as residents or sojourners, (and nothing more than a conjecture is possible,) I have made fresh inquiries at Bremen and at Hamburg, on the number of passengers which the two great lines of steamers annually bring to those ports. In the year from July 1, 1872, to July 1, 1873, the regular Hamburg steamers brought 9,594 passengers to Europe, of whom 9,000 may have been destined for Germany. Extra Hamburg steamers brought about 1,000 passengers more, so that we may set down the arrivals in Germany by that line of steamers at 10,000 a year, and of these 7,500 may be German-Americans. During the same period of twelve months the passengers in the Bremen line amounted to 3,910 first-class passengers and 7,216 steerage passengers; in all, 11,126. Of these, I think 10,000 were American citizens, of whom perhaps 1,000 remain in Germany or some part of Europe for more than one season. These statistical accounts obtained from Hamburg and Bremen in my judgment go to show that the census return for December 1, 1871, fell short of rather than exceeded the true number of Americans then present in the German Empire. Your instruction to me is, if possible, to ascertain the numbers you inquire after. To that I must reply that to ascertain is impossible, but relying on the candor of the Department, and repeating that estimates, if made at all, must be made on mixed and imperfect data, I venture to give to your questions conjectural answers.

I. Of Americans whose residence in Germany has been of long continuance, or seems to be indefinite in its intended duration, I estimate the number at 10,000, and that number rather on the increase.

II. Of Americans annually arriving from the United States in the German Empire, I estimate the number at about 15,000, of whom about 13,000 return in the same season, leaving, perhaps, about 1,500 as sojourning or temporarily abiding in the country, and about 500 to be added to the class of those whose residence seems to be indefinite, thus doing a little more than making good the losses by death and otherwise in the resident class.

III. It is not possible to state the number of children born in Germany of fathers who claim to be American citizens. But as the class of resident Americans is composed mainly of persons advanced in life, or of families of whom the heads are advanced in life, the number of children born in Germany of American parents must be proportionally very much less than the number born among the same number of Germans.

IV. There is no record kept at the legation of children born of American parents in the German Empire. The only instances of a registry that have occurred in my time are those of children born in families of this legation. So far as I know, no such record is kept at any of the consulates. The Germans, however, are very particular in registering all births; but as these registers are kept by the clergy, so that a separ ate one is kept for each parish in the Empire, it would not be possible for the legation to ascertain how many have been registered as American citizens. In special cases the inquiry would be easy, for a claimant of American citizenship of this class might be called upon to produce an authenticated copy of his baptism.

I annex a translation in detail of the reports made to me from the census bureau of the Americans present in the German Empire on the first day of December, 1871, and copies of letters from the consulates at Hamburg and Bremen.

I remain, &c.

GEORGE BANCROFT.

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HAMBURG, September 3, 1873. DEAR SIR: I am in receipt of your favor of the 1st, and fear you will find it a difficult task to ascertain the number of German-Americans who annually resort to Ger

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The twenty-six regular Hamburg steamers which arrived here from July 1, 1872, to July 1, 1873, brought 9,594 passengers to Europe. Although one-fifth of these landed at Cherbourg or Plymouth, they were mostly bound for Southern Germany, so that I can safely assume that 9,000 of them came to Germany. By the extra steamers which came about 1,000 passengers were brought. This would make 10,000 persons, of whom, knowing what material they are generally composed of, I can say that 7,500 were German-American citizens, their wives, children, &c. How many of these came to remain it is impossible to state, but I should say certainly not more than 500 or 1,000, leaving 6,000 to 6,500 as temporary visitors during the year.

I am, &c.,

ED. ROBINSON,
United States Consul.

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Mr. Gruner to Mr. Bancroft.

BREMEN, September 3, 1-73. SIR: I have the honor to acknowledge the receipt of your communication dated September 1. In answer I beg to state that it is nearly an impossibility to ascertain the fact inquired for, there being no data to refer to. The passengers arriving here from the United States do not state their nationalities, but merely the State or city they came from, and the only criterion to go by is their name, which, of course, is only guess-work, as they may just as well be American-born as naturalized. Taking, therefore, into consideration that the passengers arrived here from the United States during the year 1872 amount to 3,910 first-class and 7,216 steerage, (the same proportion about in 1873 up to date,) it can be safely calculated that nearly from two-thirds to threefourths of the former class, and at least five-sixths to seven-eighths of the latter, bear German names. From this statement, however, have to be deducted the commercial agents, who yearly make several trips to and fro; the quantity of those who remain in Germany permanently it is impossible to state, as all of them pass through this city for the interior. I judge, however, there are but few families, although it is said that lately more of the working-class of people have returned on account of the higher wages and cheaper living.

Trusting these explanations will meet your approbation,
I remain, &c.,

J. GRUNER. Acting U. S. Consul.

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No. 506.

Mr. Marsh to Mr. Fish.

LEGATION OF THE UNITED STATES,

Rome, October 10, 1873. (Received November 3.) SIR: Referring to your instruction No. 395, dated 11th of August, 1873, requiring information respecting the number of American citizens resident or temporarily sojourning in Italy, and to Mr. Wurts's dispatch on the same subject, No. 472, dated September 7, 1873, I regret to say that, though the legation has resorted to all the sources of inquiry readily accessible to us, we have failed to obtain as full and as exact details as we hoped and expected.

Returns have been received from all the consuls of the United States in Italy, except those at Genoa and Carrara, who have not yet replied to Mr. Wurts's circular; but on several of the points suggested the records of the consulates contain but scanty information, and, as will be seen from the note of the Italian minister of foreign affairs, dated September 27, a copy and translation of which, marked 1, are hereto annexed, nothing is at present to be gathered from the returns of the last census or from any of the public offices of this kingdom. Your first inquiry is as to the number of Americans whose residence in Italy has been of long continuance, or seems to be indefinite in its intended duration.

On this point the consulates report as follows:

At Ancona, the American residents are none.

At Brindisi, none.

At Florence, about 60, whose residence is upward of ten years, and of half of these the residence may be considered as indefinite in intended duration.

At Leghorn, two families, consisting of ten persons.

At Messina, native-born, 1; naturalized Sicilians, 18, with residence dating from various periods since 1844. Their families are apparently not embraced in the enumeration.

At Naples, 7, with their families, amounting in all to 16.

At Palermo, none.

At Rome, 110.

At Spezia, none.

At Venice, a family of 7, naturalized.

garded as above or below the annual average for a series of years. II. Your second inquiry respects the number sojourning and temporarily abiding in the country, and asks whether such number is to be reThe consuls report:

At Ancona, none.

At Brindisi, many Americans pass through the town, on their way to or from the East, but their stay does not exceed one week.

NOTE.-The steamers from Alexandria are weekly, and passengers often fail by a few hours to reach Brindisi in time, and are delayed until next trip.

At Florence, of winter residents about 200, the number having increased since the removal of the seat of government to Rome; of travelers spending one or two weeks in town, from October to June, an average per month of 300.

At Leghorn, in the summer, on the average about 20.

NOTE. These I believe are chiefly persons residing in other Italian towns, and repairing to Leghorn for sea-bathing.

At Messina, none excepting passing travelers, who may remain two or three days only.

At Naples many temporary visitors, but number not stated. Residents of long duration, 21.

At Palermo, a family of three persons. Average annual number, about three or four families of twenty persons.

At Rome, students in American Catholic College, 30, and a few inthe Propaganda. Number of temporary visitors not given, but supposed to be much smaller than formerly.

NOTE. Upon personal inquiry of bankers and other well-informed persons, I learn that the probable average number of American travelers at Rome is from three to four thousand. It appears to have been somewhat greater for a year or two before the occupation of the city by the Italians, but the difference is not very sensible. The majority of American visitors to Rome remain from one to four weeks, and two or three hundred pass the whole season from November to April at the city.

At Spezia a few, number not stated, in summer.

NOTE.-These, with the exception of naval officers, are, I believe, chiefly persons residing in other Italian towns, and repairing to Spezia for sea-bathing, as at Leghorn.

At Venice 48, which is much below the ordinary average, on account of the prevalence of cholera.

III. The third query is as to the number of children born in Italy of fathers claiming to be American citizens.

At Anconia are reported none.

At Brindisi, none.

At Florence, annually about 2.

At Leghorn, none.

At Messina, since 1848, 20, all apparently of naturalized parents who have returned to reside in their native country.

At Naples, last two years registered 2; number not registered is not given.

At Palermo, none.

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