TO THE Editor of THE PO London, Aug. 24, 1820. SIR, We beg permission to trouble you with a line or two on the very rude attacks which have been made upon our little com modestly decline all merit except that of mere collectors of information. But, they deserve a much higher sort of praise. They have not created any thing, indeed; but they have given great utility to an useless mass. They have not discussed political subjects: but they have fur-pilation, called "A Peep at the nished a clue in political science, such as never was possessed before. They have not descanted on our system: they have not argued about that which is called "the envy of surround"ing nations and the admira"tion of the world:" they have exhibited it to every eye. Nobody can fail to understand it that understands the. Numeration Table. These gentlemen have explained the "admiration of the world," by pounds, shillings and pence. For this I again thank them; though I must confess, that I feel a little ashamed, that they Peers.". The Lord Chancellor has described it as being full of lies; but, his Lordship conscientiously declined pointing out any one of those lies.” It would not be to behave like gentlemen for us to retort upon his Lordship; and, therefore, we shall only say, that our work is true (mere errors excepted), and that, while our consciences are clear, we do not envy him that conscience, to which he is everlastingly appealing.-1 LORD LAUDERDALE Complains, that 36,600 a-year are put down to him, while he does not receive a farthing of the public money. Now, Sir, is this fair? We put down 2,300l. to him, " as the usual allowance have taught the public more in" to retired ambassadors." He “to is one; but, if he do not receive the usual allowance, it may be, that he was not abroad long enough. We had no list to refer to; and, if it were an error, the fault was not ours. one single week, than I have been able to teach in twenty long years! I now insert their letter, which I think highly worthy of attention. count at all. If that list be not correct now, let the Ministers and our Representatives give us another. Until they do that, we shall use the old list as a matter of course. The rest of the sum, namely,' 34,300l. a-year, is put down to his family, all but 6001, which he receives in trust for six females of the name of HAY.Docs not he receive this money? And, of what consequence is it Nevertheless there are some to the public, whether he keep few errors in our work; and, it, or pay it over to somebody very far were we from pretendelse? But, it is rather curious, ing, that it was without errors. that this complaint of his lord-Some obliging correspondents ship should have led to a disco- have farnished us with means of very, which (after taking off his correcting several mistakes.—own supposed pension) will, weThese corrections we shall make believe, augment the sum total directly; and, for that purpose, against his name, as will appear we shall publish a SEin our second edition. A chap-COND EDITION very soon; ter on riders might be useful! though, to say the truth, the The MARCHIONESS of STAF-errors are of an amount perfectly FORD (or some one for her), has insignificant, when compared complained, that we have put with the mighty whole. down to her a pension of 300l. a-year; and, those who accuse us of this falsehood, assert, that she has not now, and never had, a pension. In answer to this, we say, that, in a report, laid before the House of Commons, and printed on the 29th of June, 1808, are the following words: Gower, Countess, now Marchioness of Stafford, pension, 300l. a-year." Now, Sir, who is it that states falsehoods? Lord Lauderdale is reported to have said, that the article respecting his family was intended to intimate, that, in his vote on the Queen's case, he would be influenced by the money he received! Sir, we repel this charge with indignation. Let any one look at the observations in our preface, and see what foundȧtion there is for such a charge. So far from any such imputations, we have distinctly said, You will do us the justice to that we pretend not to deterobserve, Sir, that we kave dis- mine, whether this mode of emtinctly stated in our preface,ploying the publie money be that we have no authentic pen-a good or an evil; that we have sion-list of a later date than 1808. We were, therefore, compelled to confine ourselves to that; but, surely, we were not to reject that, and thus be disabled from making out any ac merely stated facts, leaving Your most humble servants, Mr. BROUGHAM's Arguments in might say that it had arisen from rejecting their proposal, favour of the Rule of the and adopting that of the other House of Lords, to allow of side. It was a sufficient reason the re-cross-examination of the Witnesses against the Queen; together with his Reply to the ATTORNEY and SOLICITOR GENERAL OR the same subject. TUESDAY, AUGUST 29. which he urged, which any man in his situation would urge, why extraordinary indulgence should be extended to him, that he and his learned friends who were with him, had been thwarted in their petitions, hampered in their course of proceedings, never gratified in any one object, and that all the difficulties which were complained of, Mr. BROUGHAM.-He could and which he might say his not disguise the very great diffi- learned friend on the other side culty he felt, on the part of her now complained of, arose, not Majesty, when called upon to from any refusal to the other address their Lordships on this side, but from having their wishes point. He should feel it much gratified. Even to the very last easier to object to the course pre-act of this great national drama, scribed by their Lordships, than every objection urged by them to point out any other course. had been resisted by their LordFirst of all, their Lordships ships, and they had now decidwould suffer him to remind themed, they (her Majesty's Counthat the difficulty was none of sel) not having been heard. their (the Conusels) making. He was not ready to propose If any difficulties, be they nu-another course. They were of merous or be they few; if any fered a situation not only perobstacles, be they less or be fectly different from that in they greater in their nature, which they had stood last Sapresented themselves to their turday, after they had been put Lordships, none of them were to their election, and had made his. The person patronizing their election, but in a situathis bill had, indeed, urged, tion not so good-in a much that it was more for his interest worse situation than that in to proceed by this bill; they which they had stood from the (her Majesty's Counsel) on beginning till eleven o'clock on their part, and on her part, had Saturday last. Upon every objected. Although it seemed point formerly arising as to the good to the wisdom and jus- course of proceeding, they had tice of their Lordships to reject not been heard at all. Upon the course pointed out by her the petition presented against Majesty's Counsel, and to adopt the course adopted, it had been that pointed out on the other decided against them that they side, if a difficulty had now were not to be heard. Upon arisen, her Majesty's Counsel the second step, upon what he deemed much more valuable, some anticipation of the sort of what he deemed not an extra-evidence to be adduced to supordinary claim, but what le port it. But because she was deemed the privilege of every not guilty, and had not been, party in every suit-in every for aught that had appeared in private suit between A. and B., evidence, in the places where and in every criminal prosecu- the offence might be alleged to tion he meant the specifica- have been committed; because tion of the places where the she was thus innocent, she alleged acts were committed, could not conceive the places and the times, within a reason- of the alleged offence, or the able certainty and a reasonable persons in those places who latitude a specification which should give evidence. This sewas given in every case, not cond essential point their Lordonly of high treason (for the ships had decided against them analogy there went only to the without hearing them. In this list of witnesses), but in every manner their Lordships had decase the county was specified. cided that they should proceed Upon this second point they had with the trial of her Majesty, been refused, and without being under what he must bring his heard. They were referred, organs of speech to call a Bill such was the specification of of Pains and Penalties. Their the charge, to three of the four Lordships had decided that this quarters of the globe. It was mode of proceeding was of right not in Middlesex nor in Dur- and necessity, which they-he ham that the offence was would not say considered of charged to have been commit- wrong and unnecessary-but ted, but the charge extended which they denied to be of right over Europe, Asia, and Africa; and necessity. A compensation, over countries, cities, and villa- he had thought, had been ofges; over provinces, kingdoms, fered to them for all those disor empires; inhabited or unin-advantages, and it did appear habited; wildernesses, seas, to them, humbly endeavouring rivers, towns, or cities, in all to accomplish their duty accordthis variety of countries. This ing to the orders of their Lordwas their peculiar situation. It ships, (but they were now more was peculiar that there was no than ever sensible of their utter venu in this case, because in inability to understand the orevery case the venu was an es- ders of their Lordships), they did sential particular. This defect venture to hope they had atwas of peculiar weight, and tained to the meaning of their ⚫ occasioned peculiar difficulty in Lordships' orders, and they conthe defence, when no offence ceived that, in their peculiar siat all had been committed. If tuation, not of their own seekher Majesty had sinned any ing, but of their Lordships' where, she might have some making, some advantages were suspicion of the place to be to be allowed them to meet the charged, and by consequence peculiarity of difficulties which their Lordships in their wisdom of every defendant in every achad devised. They conceived tion and in every prosecution." that to meet the peculiar diffi- Their Lordships had created the culty, another peculiarity was peculiar difficulty, and they ordained by their Lordships as were therefore bound to afford an advantage that might com-a peculiar remedy. If the Bill pensate in some measure the dis- was unparalleled, if the proadvantage. They little thought ceeding against the Illustrious that when this advantage Defendant was without paralcame to be sifted, it would be lel with respect to the facts, or found simply the common ad-details, or principle, in any one vantage which every defend-judicial proceeding in the world, ant enjoyed as a clear, abso- then was it equally unparalleled lute, indisputable right, which to deny the relief required by every party, as well as every the extraordinary nature of the defendant, was invariably al mischief, which in their minds lowed. They little thought was up to the present hour unthat when they had reco-paralleled. In the case of the vered from the two refusals Duke of Norfolk, the noble dewhich he had mentioned, and fendant (the Duchess) had evefrom which they had recovered ry advantage given to her by only by that which alone had their Lordships which she could induced them to make them- desire. It was not true that selves parties to this proceed-she had only a list of the witing, they little thought that all nesses; it was not true that she was to be taken away again, had only the places and times and that they were to hear specified. She had objected to their Lordships say to them, the vagueness of charges em"You have no advantage: bracing seven parishes and five true it is that your situation is months, and asked to have the peculiar in point of hardship, months applied to the parishes; but for that very reason you and their Lordships had alshall have no peculiar advan-lowed that, and ordered the tage. The mischief is new, ex-month and the place of every traordinary, and unparalleled. act of adultery to be specified, The more innocent your client and a second amended particuis, the less able must she be to lar to be given in for this purmake a defence. But no novel pose. Thus it was in August at advantage must be given you Windsor, in September at St. to resist the extraordinary pres-Margaret's, in October at some sure. Whenever you claim an other parish, &c. Four days extraordinary remedy, then we had been allowed afterwards tie ourselves down by forms-to prepare for meeting those then we refer to the proceed-charges, so that she could go ings in courts of law-then we to Windsor, and to the other quote the practice at nisi prius places, in order to obtain eviand in the Old Bailey, and we dence. This was not all; it give you not what is the right was not true that this was all |