mediate answer to one had better do so without delay. When the Query as to the metres appeared, I had Büttner's and Beaumont's books at hand; but having very little oral knowledge of Dutch, I waited for an opportunity of hearing the passage in Beaumont read to me by a Dutchman. Probably C. E. made the inquiry for some literary purpose, and by delay my reply is mere matter of curiosity, and too late to be of any use to the querist. H. B. C.

U. U. Club.

CONCOLINEL, ETC.

(2nd S. xi. 374.)

I have two gentle adversaries to reply to-A. A. and MR. LYSONS. As the latter in his last piece has not advanced a step, but still hovers about Madeira and the Canaries, and deems the Emperor of Morocco and his nobles to have been such barbarians as not to know what a cat was, I think we had better, as he proposes, end the dispute, and let the public judge.

With A. A. I will first discuss Concolinel. I know that Niccolini, like Farini, Parini, Agostini, and a host of others, is a common surname, but I am not aware of its being a proper name; at any rate, it should have been shown that Colino was in use, a thing of which I very much doubt: for in the copious list of abbreviated Italian proper names which Ziebrecht has given in his German translation of the Pentamerona, the only abbreviations of Nicola which I find are Cola, Coluccio, Colello. Further, there is not in it a single instance of a double diminutive, which Colinello would be if it were one. Finally, I never said that Con Colonello, "with a Colonel," was a likely beginning for a love-song. I said quite the contrary, that it was not; I was convinced Concolinel was not Italian. It may, however, be objected to EIRIONNACH and myself, that there is no song commencing in any of the ways we have conjectured, and it is quite true that there is not; but surely there may have been. Many a song has had its day, died out and been forgotten; and possibly some such song may yet turn up, now that people have been put on the scent.

known

"Marry, this is miching mallecho; it means mischief,”. and the reading of the quartos is munching mallico. Now mich, which is to play the truant, can only be used of persons; and Hamlet's words must have been pure Spanish, mucho malhecho, which means mischief."

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However, to examine the Italian. In this language one of the verbs expressing to be quiet is calmarsi; and this makes, in the imperative, calmati, calmisi or si calmi, calmatevi: hence calmi, without si before or after it, would not be "be quiet." I am sure s'accommodi has often been addressed to A. A. in Italy. I must repeat my belief that there is no such verb as scutere in Italian. I think then it is now not at all likely that Pistol was talking in that language. As to the meaning of Callino, &c., it has, in my opinion, nothing to do with the question. Pistol knew no more about it than many young ladies, who learned to sing Gramachree, ma colleen oge, or Savourneen deelish, knew what they meant; he merely quotes it because qualité brought it to his mind, from a similarity of sound. His question, "Art thou a gentleman ?" was suggested by the gentilhomme of the Frenchman.

But A. A. says Pistol "has some smattering of Italian, for he twice quotes the proverb:

'Se Fortuna mi tormenta

La Speranza mi contenta;' besides occasional words." I can only find him quoting the proverb once; and the occasional words never, except fico once. The old copies give the proverb - which Douce supposed to be the motto on Pistol's sword-thus, Si fortune me tormente, sperato me contento; which Hanmer reduced to its present form, reading for sperato, il sperare (instead of lo sperare), which no subsequent critic has corrected. It seems to me so strange that the printer should have substituted sperato, a pure Italian word, for sperare, or speranza, that I suspect he may have found in his copy lo sperato. Moreover, like Chaucer's Somp

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of Latin, which he vented on occasion. Such was semper idem: like the farrier once, who, when visiting the sick horse, exclaimed Semper eadem worse and worse, by G- " and absque hoc nihil est. These of course he had only picked up; and he had also a word or two of French, got in a similar way, just as Christophero Sly had his modicum of Spanish. Ma basta. I think the readers of “N. & Q." have had quite enough of these THOS. KEIGHTLEY.

matters.

NAMES ON MONUMENTS, ETC., IN JAMAICA AND BARBADOES (2nd S. x. 404.; xi. 37.)- SPAL, having observed MR. HOTCHKIN's remarks, begs to mention in reply, that the name in question is

spelt" Hochryn," and not "Hotchkin," in Jamaica, and, therefore, the "misrepresentation" is not his. Mr. Roby, in an unfinished work on Jamaica, has the name also spelt Hochryn. SPAL begs to add, however, that in many cases he has observed the same name with an entirely different spelling, in two places, amongst these records (W. I.), in consequence of the mistakes evidently of transcribers of the original parish registers. In the present instance, MR. H. may be able to show that the name Hochryn is meant for Hotchkin.

An instance of a curious coincidence of names was observed lately by SPAL; who found the will of a person, having both a singular Christian and surname, in 1632; and another person of precisely the same name at the present day, who, however, derived the first from a maternal descent; while, though bearing the same surname, his

namesake of 1632 was not even of the same parent stock.

I think that your correspondent, J. WOODWARD (2nd S. x. 481.), will find that the arms which I described are to be found amongst the full quarterings of the Barony of Windsor, although I am not aware that that house represents any families

of the name of Stevens or Hutton.

SPAL.

JOHN DE SUTTON, BARON DUDLEY (2nd S. xi. 152. 239. 272. 398.)-Sir H. Nicolas was certainly led into an error by giving 1482 as the date of the death of John, Lord Dudley, K.G., for in the following year (24th April, 1483) he celebrated by royal commission the feast of the Order of the Garter at Windsor, on the accession of Edward V., then resident at Ludlow. The knight died 30th Sept. 1487, and George, fourth Earl of Shrewsbury, was elected to his stall, 27th April following. S. T. THE LION IN GREECE (2nd S. viii. 81.; ix. 57.) -Sir Charles Fellows, in his Account of Discoveries in Lycia (London, 1841), p. 157., has the following passage with respect to the neighbourhood of Sidyma, a town near the coast of Lycia, north of the mouth of the river Xanthus :

"The present state of this district is extremely wild; only three or four huts are amidst these ruins on the mountain, and their occupants have always their gun slung over their shoulder, even within the limits of their own cultivated fields. On inquiry as to why this custom prevailed, we were told that the country was full of wild animals, and of the fiercest kind. I was extremely cautious and particular in my inquiries as to their nature, and have no doubt of the truth of the account which I heard from many of the people of the surrounding district, and each unknown to the other. In this village alone, four or five lions, called Aslan by the Turks, and other animals called Caplan (the leopard), are killed every year. The man who first told me, had himself taken the skins to the Aga, to present to different Pachas, and these presentations had been rewarded by sums of one to two hundred piastres, which he had himself received. The lions, he said, are timid, unless surprised or attacked, and I could not hear that they did much injury to

the flocks. Wolves, and if I understand rightly, the hyæna also, are found here; and the latter are described as gnashing their teeth together; my Greek servant adds that such animals strike fire from their mouths, but this occurs in his travels in Persia. I have heard the same from showmen at our country fairs, among other exaggerated wonders. Bears are certainly found here in great numbers."

The lion was a favourite subject of ancient Lycian art. "The lion (says Sir C. Fellows, p. 182.), is seen everywhere throughout the valley of the Xanthus; every bas-relief, tomb, seat, or coin, shows the figure or limbs of this animal."

L.

STEPNEY CHURCH (2nd S. xi. 350.)- The oldest part of St. Dunstan's, Stepney, dates as far back as the early part of the fourteenth century; although several of the windows are in a style which prevailed in more recent ages. Until a repair which took place early in the present century, an embattled parapet ranged along the principal part of the building. The church has suffered much by the removal of this, and by other alterations. The interior was new pewed and "thoroughly repaired" in 1806, when much damage was done. Many of the ancient monuments recorded by Weever and others were then removed; query, destroyed?

Among its former rectors or vicars, Stepney boasts some eminent men. Stephen Segrave, afterwards Archbishop of Armagh, who died in 1333. Richard Fox, afterwards Bishop of Winchester, and founder of Corpus Christi College, Oxford. The learned John Colet, afterwards Dean of St. Paul's, and founder of St. Paul's School. Richard Pace, who was employed in several transactions of state by King Henry VIII., and was the intimate friend of Erasmus. Pace died at Stepney, and was buried in the church. Such a man must surely have had a monument to his memory? but no memorial of him at present exists.

EDWARD F. RIMBAULT.

SIR SAMUEL SALTONSTALL (2nd S. xi. 409.)In the Domestic Calendar of State Papers, edited by Mrs. Green, and published under the direction of the Master of the Rolls, several interesting allusions to Sir Samuel Saltonstall and his family will be found. On 19 Jan. 1607, the king writes to the Lord Chancellor and the Lord Treasurer to appoint a speedy day to determine a cause pending between Sir Samuel Saltonstall, Collector of Customs, and his brothers and brothers-in-law [relative to the will of his late father, p. 345.] There are other allusions to Sir Samuel, and letters from him to Salisbury, written in 1608, in the same volume at pp. 413. 426. 439. His name occurs in June, 1611, in reference to the composition of a debt of Thos. Phelippes, who thinks that his accounts ought to be discharged by Sir Samuel (Cal. p. 41.) The names of Sir Peter Saltonstall, his son Captain, afterwards Sir Richard,

Saltonstall, and Charles Saltonstall appear frequently in subsequent volumes of the Domestic Calendars of State Papers. With reference to Sir Richard there is some curious information in the Colonial Calendar of State Papers. He was one of those who accompanied John Winthrop, the first Governor, to Massachusetts, in 1630; his name, with five children, being in the list of names of the principal undertakers for the plantation of the Massachusetts Bay, that are themselves gone over with their wives and children." [Cal. p. 112.] On 28 June, 1632, "Mr. Saltingstall" was desired by the Council of New England to make a map of Salem and Massachusetts Bay. [Ibid, p. 153.]

In Dec. 1660, John Leverett, or in his absence, Richard Saltonstall (most probably a son of the above) and Henry Astwood, were employed by the colony as agents to King Charles II., and received their instructions from Governor Endecott in the name of the General Court of Boston, among other things, in reference to the bounds of their patent and to the Quakers. They were directed to use their utmost interest to prevent the Quakers from coming to New England, or to permit them liberty there, as being destructive to our being here, and so contrary to our consciences to permit." [Ibid. p. 495.]

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W. NOEL SAINSBURY. ELEME FIGS (2nd S. xi. 349.)—A learned friend, who is well up in the Turkish language, and who resided for some years at Constantinople, informs me that "Eleme" is a small place near Smyrna; and that, of all Smyrna figs, Eleme figs are considered the best. But as, in the case of "the weed," much is sold as Latakia which never grew there, so of figs. Many are recommended and, even at Constantinople, find a sale as Eleme figs, though not of Eleme. Aleme, says my friend, VEDETTE. SYCOPHILUS is informed that the word Eleme signifies choice or selected as regards the quality of the fruit, the term being applied to other Oriental fruits, as raisins, &c. SYLLIPHOOL.

would be more correct Turkish.

ROGER BACON (2nd S. xi. 107.)-No answer having, as far as I am aware, been made to the inquiry in February last respecting the portrait of Roger Bacon, formerly in the possession of the Duke of Dorset, I beg to propose a further inquiry, which may perhaps lead to some more certain information than I am myself possessed of. Is not the portrait of Roger Bacon still in the MEMOR. collection at Knole?

GUIDOTT FAMILY (2nd S. xi. 249. 318.)-There is an entry in the register of St. Andrew, Holborn, of the marriage of " Keilway Guidott of Clements Danes, Midx. gent., and Sarah Glapthorne, Sp. dau. of George Glapthorne of Mar

garet's, Westminster, Esq," published in market 19 and 24 March, 1655, and 31 March, 1656. Thomas Guidott, M.B., was an eminent physician, living at Bath in 1676. C. J. R.

Perhaps the following addition on the subject of HEREDITARY ALIAS (2nd S. ix. 144.; xi. 156.)— the hereditary alias may not be uninteresting to alias Stevenson of Baston, was proved at Lincoln the readers of "N. & Q." The will of Robert Colle, between the years 1520 and 1531; and on the 26th Sept., in the 14th year of Hen. VIII. (1522), an inquisition post mortem was taken at New Sleaford, before John Uncle, the King's Escheater, to inquire what property แ Hugo Cole, alias dictus Hugo Stephenson," died seised of, when the jury returned "quod obiit 28 die Martii a° regni Regis bovates of land in Crofton-in-Aunsby, and divers nunc 11°," seised in fee of one messuage and two lands in Dembleby, Silk-Willoughby and Culverthorpe, in the co. of Lincoln, to which was "consanguineus et hæres, Ricardus Cole, alias dictus Ricardus Stephenson, ætat. 29 ann.; et amplius, filius Godfredi Cole, alias dict. Godfridi Stephenson, nuper de Aunsby fratris dicti Hugonis." There is here an instance of four persons bearing the same alias. We are told by Marratt, in his History of Lincolnshire, and by Thoroton, in the History of Notts., that Sir Alexander Bozon of Kirton in Holland, Knt., in the reign of Richard I., was succeeded by his son, called Ralph de Kirketon, who, dying without issue, was succeeded by his brother Hugh Bozon, whose son was called Simon de Kirketon. This, although scarcely an example of the hereditary, shows an arbitrary use of two surnames. Again, there was John Vowell, alias Hooker, of Exeter, Gent., M.P., author of The Antique Description, &c., of Exeter, whose family all used the alias; Baker, alias Lloyd, of Terrington, Norfolk; Westley, alias Bendish; Ashford, alias Griffith, about 1640; Heriz, alias Smith, of Witchcock, co. Leicester, temp. Henry VII., afterwards of Wealdhall, Essex; Adelmure, alias Cæsar, of Bennington Place, Hertford shire; Pelsant, alias Buswell, of Clipstone, Northamptonshire, raised to a baronetcy, &c. &c. Doubtless, when a man married an heiress, he added her name to his own, in the same manner that he frequently assumed her arms in lieu of his paternal coat. In neither case, however, do we think the assumption took place when the lady was merely a co-heiress. LHES AP COGIDUNUS.

SEAL OF ROBERT DE THOENY (2nd S. xi. 190.) -Maud Castle is spoken of by Dugdale, (Baronage, vol. i. p. 470.) as being in Herefordshire. This, however, is incorrect. It was in the Hundred of Colwent in Radnorshire.

Your correspondent not having expressed himself with any great precision, I am at a loss to know whether he intends to represent the words,

"Chevaler al Mine" as being on the seal of Robert de Thoeny, or in some signature of his. If the latter, it is to be observed that in the barons' letter as given by Sir H. Nicolas in his Synopsis of the Peerage the entry stands simply, "Rob'tus de Tony D'n's de Castro Matill." If it is in the seal that the additional words, "Chevaler al Mine," are supposed to be found, some further description of the seal would be desirable. The date of the barons' letter is February 12, 1300-1. From your correspondent's supposing the time

to be about 1308, I conclude that he had not the document before him.

Who was the lady of the House spoken of as being buried at Lanthony Priory? What was the Lanthony Priory that she was buried at? Was it Lanthony Prima, or Lanthony near Gloucester ? MELETES.

RHEA AMERICANA (2nd S. xi. 228.)- Rhea is a name taken by zoologists from heathen mythology, to designate the American ostrich. Rhea was the daughter of Coelus and Terra. The only reason for this modern use of her name is that a name was wanted. J. S. PROFESSOR WILSON (2nd S. xi. 265.)-I beg to inform J. O. that Wilson certainly was a poet in print in 1806. In that year he won the first Newdigate Prize at Oxford; the subject "The Recommendation of the Study of Grecian and Roman Architecture." It was signed "John Wilson, Magdalen." There can be no doubt as to the identity; for in a calendar twenty years after he is designated “Professor of Moral Philosophy at Edinburgh."

S. S. S.

THEOSOPHISTS AND MYSTICS (2nd S. xi. 341.) — EIRIONNACH asks-"Who was the Chevalier Ramsay"? Andrew Michael Ramsay was a Scotchman, born at Ayr in 1686. Having been brought up in the Christian religion, he became a Deist; but afterwards, having fallen in with Poiret, a mystic divine at Leyden, Ramsay adopted the principles of mysticism. Ultimately he fell into the hands of Fenelon, Archbishop of Cambray, and in 1709 was converted to the Catholic church. He died in 1743. J. SANSOM.

THE MODERN GOTH (2nd S. xi. 289.) — It is more than forty years since I read the verses shown to me, but I can supply the line you want. "With him whose dulness darken'd every plan, Thy style shall finish what his style began." (Him is Sir Robert Taylor.) I think the copy I saw differed from that given only in a word or two: "ranged," not "raised in bright array ;" "scrolls placed," not "fix'd below; "this world in peace; "pure disorder'd order," was not the word, but I cannot say what it was; a "base compounded," not "confounded; chisell'd," not "channell'd niche;" "to see thy glorious," not "bless'd work."

THE GREEN WOMAN OF CARLISLE CASTLE (2nd S. xi. 208.)- MR. HUTCHINSON's drill-sergeant or his comrade seems to have used a little of the license of an old soldier in telling the story. If the latter was quartered at Carlisle in 1849, he could only have known of the circumstances by report, as the affair happened about twenty years earlier. My impression is also that the discovery was made in the course of alterations or repairs, and not in the more romantic manner described. A piece of the dress, which is of silver tissue, is in the possession of a lady of this neighbourhood. There is, as I am informed, a tradition that the wife of one of the Musgraves of Edenhall, was buried in Carlisle Castle. The skeleton was that

of a woman of small stature, which, agreeing with the description of the lady in the tradition, has led to an opinion that they were the same. I am sorry not to be able to give MR. H. any authentic account of the manner in which the skeleton was placed. LUGUVALLENSIS.

RED TAPE (2nd S. xi. 329. 375.) - Your contributor L. says "the corresponding article [to red tape] which has for some time been used by solicitors and attorneys for tying up their papers is green ferret." Red tape, as every lawyer knows, is now, and has I believe for a very long period been used by the legal profession for the purpose alluded to. The only purpose for which green ferret is used is one to which, as old deeds show, red tape was formerly applied, namely, the attaching of seals to deeds engrossed on parchment. A deed dated in 1732, with the seals attached by means of red tape, is now lying before me.

DAVID GAM.

CATS (2nd S. xi. 307.) — C. W. B.'s Query respecting the habits of his cat in particular reminds me of a very singular habit I have noticed in cats in general. Every lover of flowers knows that "a pig in a china shop" is not more out of place than a cat in a garden, yet it is not generally known that there is one plant at least which cannot be grown except in the absence of the feline race. The plant is Nemophilla, and I have frequently noticed that before the seed has been a week in

the ground all the cats in the neighbourhood will come and roll themselves on the place where it is sown; and although it has no smell, they will single it out from amongst a score of batches of other seeds. In order fairly to test the matter, I sowed some Nemophilla in a large vase which stood alone in the centre of a plot of grass, and long before the seed appeared above the ground I noticed frequently three or four cats at once rolling on the top of the vase. I should be glad to hear of a reason for this curious fancy of the cat. H. FISKINELL.

Allow me to assure C. W. B. that the proverb is not applicable to his cat, so far as the first peculiarity is concerned; for I also possess a cat, named after the M.P. for his native town, who exhibits the same inordinate desire to suck, not only door-mats, but anything else which can be submitted to the process, and is particularly fond of a lady's dress whereon to practise his favourite pursuit. The "kneading action of the paws" accompanying it is also one of his eccentricities. He, too, was deprived of parental care as soon as he learned to walk, and before he learned to wash himself; and upon his introduction to his present home, my old black cat (yclept "Job," for her patience) took pity on the forlorn orphan, and carefully commenced the ablution of the young baronet, who ought to be a black and white cat,

but by dint of much dormitating in the col-cellar was rapidly losing the latter hue; and this be volent practice she continued until Sir Alexander, under her kind instructions, attained the accomplishment to her satisfaction. I am sorry to add that the baronet is one of the idlest cats I know. Though Job taught him to wash himself, not all her persuasions could induce him to catch a mouse; and accordingly she caught the mice, and brought them to her adopted child to devour.

life usually lasts? The said Job was a full-grown May I append a Query, as to how long feline cat when I first had her, and she lived thirteen years afterwards, which I have always supposed to be an extraordinary age for a cat. HERMENTRUDE.

SIBBS FAMILY (2nd S. xi. 211.) - The following from St. Andrew's, Holborn, register, may in

terest:

TYBURN TICKET (2nd S. xi. 350. 395.) — The Tyburn Ticket, of which your correspondent EDWARD PEACOCK has forwarded you the form, does not appear to have been transferred (as authorised by the Act of William III.) by the Rev. John Ousby, to whom it was granted; but as these tickets were frequently transferred, and to give J. H., your correspondent (p. 350.), more complete information, I herewith send you the form of Transfer:

"Form of Transfer of Certificate. "Know all Men by these presents, That I the within named C. D. of the Parish of in the County of Middlesex, in pursuance of the power given me by the Act of Parliament within-mentioned, and in consideration of the Sum of of lawful Money of Great Britain to me in hand, paid by of the same Parish and County, the Receipt whereof I do hereby acknowledge, have bargained, sold, assigned, and transferred, and by these presents do hereby Bargain, Sell, as well the Assign, and Transfer unto the said Certificate within written as all the Right, Interest, and Demand of me the said C. D. thereto, and all Exemptions, Benefit, and Advantage that may be had and made thereof, by virtue of the said Act of Parliament, as fully as I myself might or could have had if these presents had not been made. And I, the said C. D., by these presents do hereby Covenant to and with the said that I have not Assigned the said Certificate, other than by these presents, nor have made use thereof my