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practical suggestions for solutions of the big problems dealt with. I realize that these are things you have doubtless considered and unquestionably appreciate, but I lay this additional stress upon them because I do not want to see this conference drift into a mere academic discussion of the conservation question. In this I would not be understood as attempting to detract from the value of the suggestions that will be submitted by the theoretical students and the enthusiastic idealists. The most careful consideration should be given to their words as they most often define with clearness the end desired and the general plan which is the wisest to pursue. But in working out the details the theorist and the idealist is apt to replace what actually is by what he believes ought to be, and this is where the practical mind, with possibly a more restricted vision, should be consulted and thoughtfully heeded. He who talks in terms of experience and meets the conditions of to-day with the logic of common sense will prove the safer guide in filling in the working details of the general plan you finally decide to pursue. Surer progress will in the end be made if the obstacles which are to be met and which must be overcome in conserving our resources are recognized and given full consideration. You, at all times, ought to remember that in attempting to provide for the future, the needs of the present must be met. These needs are urgent, vital, and constantly growing. Any scheme to conserve our resources which fails to take them fully into account must necessarily fail. This generation will prove willing to promote the welfare of the next only so long as it is not called upon to forego the necessities and comforts which can be had for the taking. Free and untrammelled discussion of the problems of conservation should be invited. The Federal Government has already entered upon a policy of conservation as respects our timber resources. If abuses have grown up in carrying Out that policy, let just criticism have ample opportunity to point out those abuses to the end that they may be corrected. This Congress, if it hopes to be of real and enduring Service to the cause it has adopted, must not blind itself to wrongs in the administration of a department that directs the first Government attempt at conservation, if there be wrongs. It must not become the subservient tool of a governmental bureau, else for all practical purposes it will become impotent to do good. Neither must it lend itself to the furthering of the interests of one departmental head at the expense of another. The National Conservation Congress should be what its name implies, a convention representative of all sections and of this great country in its broadest sense, free from personalities, partisanship, or sectionalism. This I am sure it is now and will continue, and as such I predict that it will prove an instrument with which immeasurable good will be Wrought for the entire United States. (Applause.) SECRETARY BRowN: I hope the delegates will not forget during the recess to hand in the names of the suggested members of the Committees of Resolutions and Permanent Organization. MR. Douglas: It is understood, I believe, that the Territories of Hawaii and Alaska, the District of Columbia, and the province of British Columbia are included? MR. LIBBY : The word “States” was used in the broadest SenSe. Ex-SENATOR SQUIRE: I should like to ask in what reSpect institutions which send delegates to this Congress are to be considered? MR. LIBBY : The same as all others. The chair has named the temporary chairmen of the Committees on Resolutions and on Permanent Organization. and the delegates of each State have been requested to get together and name one member of each of these committees and to report to Captain White, of the Resolutions Committee, and Mr. Baker, of the Committee on Permanent Organization. Then the committees will organize as they see fit. MR. E. W. Ross: In all public assemblies among American people there is a customary way of doing things, and I move that we proceed in the ordinary American manner, understood by all; that the roll of the States be called, and that the delegates from the various States be requested to immediately assemble and select from their membership a member for each of these committees; that the names of those selected be reported to the secretary of this Congress and that upon the reading of such report the chairman of this Congress designate where and when each of these committees will meet to organize for business. JUDGE MARVIN (Connecticut): The motion was made that the roll of the States should be called and each person from the different States named should rise in his place: that was made and carried and the secretary should now call the roll and each man rise in his place, and then we shall know how many are here and we can get together during TeCeSS. MR. Ross: When the delegation rises, let someone from that State designate where the members of the State may meet. The Secretary then received the list of names turned in for membership on the Committee on Resolutions and the Committee on Permanent Organization. The Congress then adjourned until 2.30 p.m.


Thursday, August 26.

MR. LIBBY called the meeting to order at 2.30 p.m. MR. LIBBY : In order to make this meeting as national as possible we are going to have the various sessions presided Over by men of national note, and I take great pleasure this afternoon in presenting to you the Hon. John Barrett, Director of the Bureau of American Republics, who will preside over this session. (Applause.) Mr. Barrett thereupon assumed the chair. MR. BARRETT : I am sure if all the people from the Pay Streak wandering round these grounds knew what a fine vaudeville show we are going to have here this afternoon this room would be crowded. I am sure there is not a Wild Man of Borneo who can compare with the noble gentlemen who will address you this afternoon and it is a pleasure for me to act as a sort of stage manager. It is a good deal of responsibility for me to preside at a gathering where some forty or more people are to speak for five minutes and I Solemnly assure them that they will get their coattails pulled until they are detached from the rest of the garment if they persist in speaking more than five minutes. A lot of these gentlemen have come to me and said they wanted to be allowed extra time, but they are such a modest lot I am going to let them speak for themselves. I warn the different speakers not to say too much about themselves. For instance, they need not tell their age. This morning Brother Shumaker begged the ladies' pardon for telling his age and saying he was 46 years old. We all know he is a very fine, handsome man and I thought he was only 30, but we must not have any of that this afternoon.

This is a very important session and it is not often that in a gathering of people one has an opportunity to listen to representatives of each State of the nation and I am sure that each State will be done honor by this list of eminent men who are engaged in the work of conservation within their respective localities. I dont know exactly where to begin, the list is not arranged alphabetically, but as a matter of courtesy I think we will all agree that those who come from afar or beyond the direct limitations of the United States should be invited first to speak to us, and as this is the Alaska-Yukon-Pacific Exposition, we would like to hear from the representative of Alaska. As he is not here at present, we will all be delighted to hear from the Hon. F. J. Fulton, of British Columbia. (Applause.)


11 r. Chairman, Ladics and Gentlemen:

I wish first of all to thank the promoters of this First National Conservation Congress for the invitation tendered to myself and others from British Columbia to attend your meeting. We esteem it a very great privilege indeed.

As to what we are to speak upon this afternoon—“What Is Conservation Doing In My State”—in my case “in our province,” I wish to say that I cannot speak very much on that point because we are only just commencing to consider this problem of conserving our natural resources. The Mayor of Seattle spoke this morning of the City of Seattle being the youngest city in the State. Our province is in the same position in our Union of the Dominion of Canada. We are the youngest province in that union, having entered

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