Test of S.J. Res. 199-Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the

United States

CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF WITNESSES

THURSDAY, JULY 29, 1982

Hatfield, Hon. Mark O., a U.S. Senator from the State of Oregon.

Helms, Hon. Jesse, a U.S. Senator from the State of North Carolina...

Siegel, Rabbi Seymour, Jewish Theological Seminary of America; John M.

Murphy, deputy supreme knight, Knights of Columbus, New Haven, Conn.;

and Robert Dugan, Jr., director, National Association of Evangelicals,

Washington, D.C......

McAteer, Ed, Religious Roundtable, Arlington, Va.; and Gary Jarmin, direc-

tor, Project Prayer, Washington, D.C....

Kelley, Rev. Dean, director for religious and civil liberty, of National Council

of Churches, New York, N.Y.; Dr. Jimmy R. Allen, president, radio and

television commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, Fort Worth,

Tex.; Dr. Charles_Bergstrom, executive director, office of governmental

affairs, Lutheran Council in the U.S.A., Washington, D.C.; and Nathan Z.

Dershowitz, director of commission on law and social action, American

Jewish Congress, New York, N.Y

Kindness, Hon. Thomas, a U.S. Representative from the State of Ohio.

WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 18, 1982

Neal, Hon. Stephen L., a U.S. Representative from the State of North Caroli-

na.....

Schmults, Hon. Edward C., Deputy Attorney General of the United States;

accompanied by Hon. Bruce Fein, Associate Deputy Attorney General of

the United States

Robertson, M. G. "Pat", president, Christian Broadcast Network, Inc., Virgin-

ia Beach, Va..

McGuire, Willard H., president, National Education Association, Washington,

D.C.; and Joanne Goldsmith, executive director. National Coalition for

Public Education and Religious Liberty, Washington, D.C.

Corman, Hon. James, representing Americans United for Separation of

Church and State, Silver Spring, Md.; George E. Bushnell, representing the

general assembly of the United Presbyterian Church, New York, N.Y.; Hon.

John Buchanan, representing People for the American Way, Washington,

D.C.; George Ogle, program director, general board of church and society,

the United Methodist Church, Washington, D.C..........

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THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 16, 1982

Meyer, Hermine Herta, attorney, Chevy Chase, Md.; accompanied by Mary

Elizabeth Bull, president, Maryland Interfaith Committee for School

Prayers, Chevy Chase, Md.; James M. Smart, Jr., attorney, Smart & Whi-

tenead, Kansas City, Mo.; Grover Rees, University of Texas Law School,

Austin, Tex.

Sandalow, Dean Terrance, University of Michigan Law School, Ann Arbor,

Mich.; Prof. Geoffrey R. Stone, University of Chicago Law School, Chicago,

Ill.; Dean Norman Redlich, New York University School of Law, New York,

N.Y.; Prof. Paul Bender, University of Pennsylvania Law School, Philadel-

phia, Pa.; and Prof. William W. Van Alstyne, Duke University of Law,

Durham, N.C.....

ALPHABETICAL LISTING AND MATERIALS SUBMITTED

Allen, Rev. Jimmy R.:

Testimony

Prepared statement

Bender, Prof. Paul:

Testimony.

Prepared statement

Bergstrom, Dr. Charles:

Testimony

Prepared statement

Buchanan, John H., Jr.:

Testimony

Prepared statement

Articles.

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Resolution on proposed prayer amendment adopted on June 28, 1982 by

the 194th general assembly of the United Presbyterian Church..

Corman, James Č.:

Testimony

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298

Prepared statement

Denton, Sen. Jeremiah:

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Copy of the President's proposed amendment..

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Legal analysis of the amendment prepared by the Justice Department's

Office of Legal Policy...

"The Making and the Unmaking of the Establishment Clause," by James
McClellan, from the Free Congress Research & Education Foundation...

"Congressional Retraction of Federal Court Jurisdiction Over the Re-

served Powers of the States: The Helms Prayer Bill and a Return to

First Principles," by James McClellan, from 27 Villanova Law Review,

1982

Jarmin, Gary:

Testimony

Prepared statement

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Jarmin, Gary-Continued

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"Defending the School Prayer Amendment," by Grover Rees III, from the

Wall Street Journal, July 22, 1982..........

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Kelley, Rev. Dean M.:

Testimony

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Prepared statement

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"The Churches and the Public Schools," a policy statement of the Nation-

al Council of the Churches of Christ in the U.S.A., dated June 7, 1963....

"Opposition to the Christian Amendment Proposal, a policy statement,

dated June 4, 1959.....

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Resolution on prayer in public schools, adopted May 13, 1982

Kindness, Congressman Thomas: Testimony..

McAteer, Ed:

Testimony

Prepared statement

McGuire, Willard H.:

Testimony

Prepared statement

Attachments

Meyer, Hermine Herta:

Testimony

Prepared statement

Murphy, John M.:

Testimony

Prepared statement

Neal, Congressman Stephen L.:

Testimony

Text of H. Con. Res. 1..

Ogle, George: Testimony.

Redlich, Norman:

Testimony

Prepared statement

Rees, Grover:

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